Center of Awareness

Sit in with a discussion with Gurudeva about the center of awareness. What is it? Gurudeva says that many people think that they are just their name or they are a certain person or they are a member of a family, but that's not who they really are.

Photo of  Gurudeva
It is an error to say that the universe is mere illusion, for it is entirely real when experienced in ordinary consciousness, and its existence is required to lead us to God.
—Gurudeva